Clearly this is a deviance that falls under the realms of bad taste, but is it an example of government overregulating behavior? And FYI: I saw these more than a few times back when I lived in Central Florida...
Aw, nutz!
TALLAHASSEE, Florida -- The Florida Senate today debated and passed an amendment to impose a $60 fine on Truck Nutz, the novelty vehicle adornment attached to trailer hitches that resemble the dangling southern end of a northbound bull.
The popular accessory to truck trailer hitches is on its way to being subject to a fine in a bill debated -- albeit delicately -- on the Senate floor Thursday.
Although lawmakers said they're widespread in North Florida, the bill says that displaying reproductions of bull genitalia -- one version has the brand name Truck Nutz -- on a vehicle or trailer can lead to a $60 fine, charges of a moving violations, and points against a driver license.
The ban was proposed by Sen. Cary Baker, R-Eustis, who said the items are "not appropriate," even though he sees a lot of them in his district.
Other members agreed on their popularity, but questioned how worthwhile a crackdown might be. Sen. Jim King, R-Jacksonville, said he had a set on one of his vehicles, which he described as "all pimped out." They are no more than "an expression of truckliness," he said, although he'd acceded to his wife's request to take them off.
Other members found the fine excessive, and some thought the whole matter absurd.
"I find it shocking we'd tell people with metallic testicles on their bumpers that this is a violation," said Sen. Steve Geller, D-Hallandale. "There's got to be better things for us to spend time debating."
Geller suggested this ban might be followed by prohibiting silhouettes of nude women on truck mud flaps or decals depicting a small boy relieving himself on another truck logo.
"We're basically going to have the bumper police," King said.
"All their concerns are legitimate," Baker said of the critics. "And I do have more important things to do this session. But I think this is important, too."
Baker said he's heard from many people who don't like seeing the novelties, "so the ones who complained will like it. My wife will like it," he said of potential ramifications.
As for others' concerns that lawmakers may be "headed down a slippery slope" as King said about the ban, Baker said "anytime you deal with obscenity it's a large gray area," but he believes the ban is worthwhile. Although bull genitalia is currently in fashion, Baker said he used the words "reproductive glands" in the bill because other versions could be produced later.
The bill was debated Thursday, and a vote is expected next week. The House version, however, does not have the ban, and some senators questioned whether House leaders would unleash that debate. Baker said he did not check with the House sponsor on the change.
Debate on the ban began Wednesday, but the discussion became so high-spirited Senate leaders postponed the matter.
"We're not going to have what happened yesterday," Senate President Ken Pruitt, R-Port St. Lucie, warned committee chairmen before going on the floor Thursday.
But an effort to remove the ban failed on a close-sounding voice vote called by Pruitt -- a decision some members found surprising.
"But the Senate President is always right" on such calls, King said.
31 comments:
Although these ornaments are in bad taste, I think that having something like this in any state government is ridiculous. Wasting time on whether or not you can have bull balls hanging from your truck instead of spending time debating about poverty reformation or equal rights amendments or, I don't know, the budget, is absurd. And if it passes, then we need to describe "obscenity" all over again and soon you won't be allowed to have bumper stickers at all because everything is offensive to someone. I think if someone wants to look like a jackass with balls hanging from the back of their truck and nipples on their back window, let them. We don't need to be wasting governmental resources hunting down idiots.
I agree with the previous comment that although these images may be in bad taste, I don't think it is worth it for the government to waste its time on a matter such as this one. I do believe that if this law passes it will lead to a slippery slope in which many things people display on their cars may become prohibited. I just don't see the point in wasting resources on something so small.
REALLY!? This is ridiculous that law makers even have the time to meet and discuss a matter as ridiculous as this. It is even more absurd than the national congression for oversight committee holding hearings on steroid use in pro sports....It just seems that government whether federal or state would have better ways to spend tax payer dollars than to waste time discussing fines for a rubber nut sack on some hicks pick-up. It is most likely an excust to pull these trucks over to get other stuff from them, like the unregistered sawed off shotgun behind their seat, and the 20 open containers of Pabst Blue Ribbon littering the front seat and flat-bed.
If the government is feels like this is such an important issue, then im alittle scared to really see how they handle more serious situation. I think that the government is wasting there time trying to figure out if you can have bull balls hanging in there truck. I wouldnt be surprised if the government bans having bumper stickerson your car, like the article stated. I do think if this law passes then what else thats not so important will pass too. The government should be more worried about wasting there money and time. They should be concerned with bigger issues.
T.Elia
Although I do agree that these ornaments are in bad taste, I don't think the government should be wasting time discussing something as trivial as this. Do they not have other more important matters to discuss? Balls hanging from the back of a truck should be the least of our worries; and then they're gonna try and fine you for making the choice (which you have the right to since its your property) of having balls on your truck. And why these ornaments now? The naked lady silhouette and the little boy peeing have been around for alot longer, why didn't they do something about those? This is a complete waste of time and a waste of government resources and manpower.
Maybe it's just me, but I think there are better things that could be decided in Senate, even the Florida Senate than whether balls on someone's truck shoudl be illegal or not. Honestly? Maybe the economy, or something like that. It's absolutely ridiculous that time would be wasted on such a ban. And who cares whethere someone has balls on their truck? It's not your truck so why do you care? And I'm pretty sure cops have better things to do than ticket people for having illegal truck ornaments...
Caitlyn C
Gee, it's nice to see tax dollars going to pay for the time alloted for the discusion of nutz. Big deal, it may be in bad taste, but to generate a law and fines for hanging your nutz off your truck is really a waste of time that could be allocated for more improtant discussions regarding poverty and reforms. it sounds more like it's just another way for that state to generate more income via the fines.
Veronica V.
This is not a big deal. Tax money and time should not be wasted on this. People personalize their cars all the time. If someone puts a religious bumper sticker are we going to go after him. Unless the ornament is highly offensive to alot of people we shouldn't do anything.
I agree with Amanda, in that it is simply bad taste, and the government does not need to waste its limited time and resources debating this issue. It's a form of expression, of what, I don't know. But it is not hurting anyone, or causing any accidents. It does not yield a govenment intervention by any means.
I think these are in bad taste but someone should not be fined for having them. If you can't have these ornaments then what are they going to ban next? There are plenty of better things that the police should be worrying about and spending their money on to control. It's someone's right to be able to put what they want on their cars even if it is ridiculous.
TruckNutz may be immature and slightly innapropriate, but honestly whats the harm? People walk around our campus wearing shirts that say SUNY FUCKING ALBANY, neither things bother me but wearing profane t-shirts seems like it would have a more negative effect than a pair of bronze balls on a truck. I see no good reason to ban TruckNutz, besides, if you've ever seen a truck with them on the road its pretty funny.
C. Leahy
I think this is defiently boarding on barely being a form of deviance and really has no reason to be an issue for the government to regulate these things. While I guess some may find them in bad taste, its still just simply a small piece of metal at the end of a trailer hitch.
I think making TruckNutz a violation that warrants ticketing is absolutely ridiculous. The fact that time was taken to make this illegal really is questionable. The time taken to debate this in state government could pretty much be spent better debating anything else. Not to mention the silhouettes of naked women on trucks have been around for a much longer period of time and no one seemed to complain about that. I find it interesting that only when it has to do with male genitalia is it seen as obscene, inappropriate and apparently illegal?
I think this has gone too far. Go into any Spencer's store and these guys would have a field day, banning things left and right. Its an act of expression. Not to stereotype (but I'm going to) most of these guys driving these trucks are not the most conservative, straight-arrow people. If this is what they want to decorate their trucks with then whatever. I feel that their freedom of rights is being infringed upon and like stated in the article, these Senators are getting themselves into more then they can handle. Once they ban something like this where do you stop? Is it fair to ban these bull testicles and not a nude woman? I'm just waiting for some Feminist group to get wind that the Senate thinks objectifying bull balls is wrong but not the female body.
This should be of the littlese concerns to politicians in Florida. They should be more concerned with how they can lower gas , because that is kicking us in the nutz. People have the right to disagree , and not everyone will like what you have to say/do. I agree it is "hanging" out in public, but is it really doing any harm besides bad taste. They would need to start outlawing obscene bumper stickers and everything else that drivers want to put on their cars. Its amazing these ideas get off the ground, there are far better things that should be our biggest concern
I think these politicians have nothing better to debate over. It is ridiculous that you could receive a fine for having bull balls attached to your car. There are better things to debate over. I feel it is against the rights of expression. It may be in bad taste and without morals, but people have the right to express themselves. I feel that the government is overregulating this behavior. If they are going to ban such things as bull balls, than they might as well ban silhouettes stickers of naked women or ban anti bush stickers. I feel that this law should be overturned.
I can see this being a bit of a controversy. Since the balls of the bull are behind the truck everyone will take notice and could then be considered offensive. However, to spend so much time debating it is absurd. I'm sure Florida has other problems to address rather than this. I do feel that the government is overregulating this behavior. We are allowed to express ourselves. I agree with Matthey F. in that if this type of expression is banned then so will other expressions. It is just ridiculous how much attention this is getting.
Obviously Florida's politicians have nothing better to do with their time. Granted truck nutz aren't something that is appealing to most, it shouldn't be outlawed. Many people put naked pictures on their windows of cars and controversial bumper stickers but apparently this hasn't been found to be as inappropriate as bull nuts. The government is just wasting their time trying to pass this law. There is nothing that obstructs the view of the driver which would be a more substantial argument. This is just a waste of time and a waste of politicians salaries.
So personally I wouldn't be too fond of driving behind someone who had this on their truck yet I don't think a lot of people in New York City would have Truck Nutz on their cars so I think I'm in the clear. Even though I think these are as someone else has stated "bad taste" I don't see what is so deviant about adding a little decor to your ride. People have bumper stickers that say heinous things and the stickers of Calvin relieving himself but the Senate wants to make a big deal out of Truck Nutz? There are other more pressing issues in the world today that garner the attention of the Senate. The article made it sound as though it's the Senators wife who really has a problem with them.
I agree that these ornaments are inappropriate in the sense that young kids can bare witness to them, and I myself perfer to not look at a set of testicles. However, I agree that there are better things lawmakers could regulate. The $60 fine is not in my opinion, excessive. It will probably deter some from having such an ornament on their vehicle, but having to hand out these tickets is a waist of time for police, who could be focusing on other more serious matters.
Matt Loucks
What else will this lead to. The ornaments may be in bad taste and possibly are obscene but any person can turn their head and doesn't have to look at them. It is ridiculous the time of legislation that is wasted over matters of automobile apparel. Testicles hang from every male animal, big deal. In Florida these politicians should know that you can see just as much of the woman anatomy if you take a five minute stroll down South Beach. It is an expression of the trucks owner that their truck has balls. I think that they are a hilarious novelty that will die off in popularity in the future anyway so why waste the time of legislators and money of the citizens. Someone should fine Sen. Cary Baker, R-Eustis $60 for being an idiot.
-Eric Spaulding
The fact that they are discussing something like that is rediculous. There are so many other important issues that should be taken care of that they probably dont even discuss at all. Yes having bull testicles on a truck may be a bit disturbing, but there are so many other things that are worse. There are so many bumper stickers that insult specific groups, women, men, etc. If this bill would have been passed too much time and money would be spent in order to keep up with all the bull balls carriers. How far will legislators take it just to get a bill passed.
Granted bull's balls may not be the best thing to have on your truck, I agree that there are more important matters to take care of. The government need not be so concerned with something as insignificant as this. Maybe they feel it is, but the issue of economy, and safety, and a whole assortment of other issues are just waiting to be dealt with and are much productive than this case.
Wow I have never heard of Truck Nutz, but I have since ordered a pair. Now these are certainly not any more obscene then a woman breast feeding and more importantly, why is someone looking at the trailer hitch of the car, WATCH THE ROAD. These look hilarious and frankly the truck drivers already have a hard job how about we let them enjoy their drive and if it comes from having camo colored rubber balls hanging from their trailer hitch then so be it. Frankly it is none of our business as to what you put on the back of your car, and if you really don’t like it you could probably pay the drivers not to put the Nutz on their Truck.
Viva La Truck Nutz!!
-Robert S.
They are car ornaments. Next thing you know, state legislatures will be wasting their time regulating mudflaps and stupid crap people put in their back window (I'm looking at you, stuffed animals). This is an extraordinary waste of time and resources. If you legislate this, you also have to legislate bumper stickers, those things have got to go.
-Rose B
Doesn't the government have better things to do with their time? From becoming involved in the sporting world to debating whether bull genitals can be placed on a trailer hitch, it seems like those in power in Washington must be getting pretty bored. People may not find these ornaments attractive, but to me this would definately fall under a persons right to free expression. They aren't harming anyone, and I'm not sure that many people would even notice in the first place. This is a case of bad taste that unfortunately has been completely blown out of proportion.
Interesting article. It illustrates how sensitive Americans are to sexuality, nudity, etc. Go to many other countries and they are much more open with sex, even to the point of naked billboards/advertisements. We cant even handle a somewhat suggestive ornament of an animal? Come on people, we are at war, there are many more important decisions to be making right now.
Christina D.
These things are meant to be funny and give off a laugh, I remember when I first saw these I couldn't stop laughing. It is one thing to not like them and suggest or recommend taking them off, but to start handing out fines and even moving violations and points onto your license is just ridiculous. As Sen. Steve Geller said in the article, there has to be better things to spend time debating. Something like this is just a waste of resources and effort. B. Brown
Someone in the article said it the best, shouldn't we be using out time to debate issues that matter? I see many bumper stickers with more offensive messages all the time, does this mean that they are at risk? You have got to be kidding me.
The fact that our law-makers are spending time debating something like this is absurd. Also, the use of the term 'slippery slope' in the article is extremely accurate. Yes, this is clearly a classless display. However, there are also countless other things people do, buy, or wear that are classless. It is a waste of time and resources, and philosophically opens the door to regulating any number of behaviors that aren't really that dangerous.
This is a good example of our tax dollars going to waste. In a country that's at war and has many people without health insurance, there's no reason for a state government to waste time debating about balls hanging from a truck. This is only a state government issue though. It's even worse that Congress is wasting time whining about steroids in baseball.
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